August 13, 2026
gecko4
yea seems fine to me
auskgd
Ah
zhenmuron
ending with "Best wishes!" just feels off i cant put my finger on why
this is so minor but i would change the last sentence to be like
"Thank you very much. I hope to see you around and hope nothing but the best for you."
auskgd
Better?
auskgd
oki
gecko4
considering it's a mutual apology where you both hurt each other and both have already apologised for doing so i feel as though mentioning how she hurt you in this message too is overdoing it, since she addressed exactly that in her message to you
i don't want to rewrite too much for you but i feel that the whole "Still I know who runs the story ... I was never traumatized by church" line can be simplified to "I know I've never been in your shoes, but i will say ..."
auskgd
Lowkey im kinda BAD at this
hows this?
"Hey Clique. I hope you are doing well.
I genuinely really appreciate you coming to me about this. I'd like to directly apologize for the stuff I said that was harmful to you. As for your apology, while I really wish things had gone different, I believe everything happens for a reason. I know I've never been in your shoes, but I understand that your past experiences greatly affected how you perceived and interpreted things. With all of this said, this is now in the past. I forgive you and still care about you just as much as I did before. I also ask for your forgiveness for how my lack of knowledge made you feel unseen and dismissed.
As for the damage and to answer your question about the original post and video, I would appreciate if you reiterated some of what you said here to me publicly, not to cause you any shaming but to make sure there are no further misinterpretations and avoid people going out of their way to hate/offend me. Then, if the original post could be removed, that'd be also great.
Thank you very much. I hope to see you around and hope nothing but the best for you. (edited)
arcanin
^
zhenmuron
Only seems fair
Yeah I would just ask for some of this to be reiterated in public since she made the whole situation a public ordeal
auskgd
I am so relieved tho, wow
She said she's willing to take all steps needed to make this better. What do yall think makes more sense for me to ask? perhaps just deleting the original post or like posting something new about it? ive never been in a situation like this ๐ญ I'm open for suggestions
She said she truly thinks i was sincere and i can also see sincerity in her apology
I honestly did not expect this whole thing to go this well
To summarize without getting too into it she apologized for misinterpreting some of the points, for not asking for clarification, not attempting to solve it privately and for making it look like there was no other option other than publicly exposing, and said sharing personal information was reckless, and also explained where she was coming from and why she was hurt and how. She said i explained her claims pretty well and even asked if theres anything I'd suggest her to do with the original post and video
zhenmuron
GG
auskgd
Apologized to me
Clique just
Also, y'all
thats my opinion
auskgd
I think you are very cool
joris_0
Yeeees
ashkar
shouldnt be worried at all, thanks for bringing it up ๐
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zhenmuron
np
ya i get ya
ravingrafters
By no means do I intend to throw shade at you or anything, as I can fully understand doing so, especially in the moment as stuff progressed, I just wanna be clear there too.
zhenmuron
fair enough
ravingrafters
Of all the incidents the last few days, to be honest, the one that I find the most egregious is SwtCyn. I'm glad he's left and will be resigning, though I do think this should be an outright and clear demotion. I find myself extremely uncomfortable reading those messages, and tbh, worse is the dodging of the problem after it was brought here, instead claiming it was poor wording, of which the messages show no signs of beyond his word. This would be the most well-worded case of "poor wording" I have ever seen, and tbh, at such an extreme, I don't think it would matter, anyway. Things like the "shove it down my throat" line is the exact same rhetoric that has made my life absolutely miserable the last few years, and frankly, I just do not wish to co-exist in the server with someone who is openly and without prompt putting those same views out there to other people in a community like this.
That being said, I do think that following stuff like his last send to call it ass is a little bit unnecessary, since to me it reads less like trying to check out the level, but moreso to insult for judgement you disagree with. Regardless of whether or not I agree with it in that particular case is irrelevant, just feel like it adds nothing of value to the conversation. This is a bit of a minor side tangent, I know, but just not a huge fan of that one and some of the inconsistency with how similar statements can sometimes be treated.
hychie
yea just focus on the conversation with clique lol
kirichux3
should be fine
they added you so you can just accept and see what happens
GL
auskgd
Hope it goes well
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devilmine
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zhenmuron
youll be fine
no need to attach expectation to it
auskgd
yea sorry anxiety+ocd go a little crazy sometimes
zhenmuron
if ur ready then just go for it
auskgd
thank you guys
devilmine
i doubt anything bad could even come out of it
agsilver.
also i dont think you should think too much into it
auskgd
oki!
devilmine
just accept and talk
auskgd
thats why i think its chill
auskgd
EXACTLY
mbed
i mean she sent you the request lol
devilmine
so i feel like they are open to talk
agsilver.
^
devilmine
lowkey they retweeted the apology before anything too
auskgd
very true!!!
agsilver.
but accepting will just show you are open to talking
auskgd
worst that can happen is she tells me to kms or something ๐
agsilver.
you dont have to immediately respond after accepting
howard_subwoofer
Well i hope we can say something sooner than later
auskgd
Prolly to let it breathe perhaps but i think im ready to accept
zhenmuron
no point in waiting
if ur ready then accept
auskgd
Idk
zhenmuron
nah just do it
agsilver.
wait for what?
auskgd
Idk (?)
auskgd
Some people told me to wait for now before accepting
auskgd
have fun :D
auskgd
yea i was gonna say LOL
ravingrafters
Ive read all this back, and, I do have thoughts on the matter, although Im really not sure how to organize any of it.
Also, what in the world did I wake up to ๐ญ
Literally just go hang out lmao
kazvixx
Trane
Cya
mbed
bye ๐
imdrane
bye modchat
you're right
zhenmuron
go do fun stuff
go away
imdrane
"i've never seen a faster career suicide in my life"
zhenmuron
ye fr
mbed
tell bro to enjoy your hang out time
imdrane
we were both flabbergasted at the swtsyn thing
zhenmuron
chudding out
imdrane
he got mcdonalds and have been reading discussion for the past few hours ๐ญ
kazvixx
Don't tell drane but he's also cool
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imdrane
this is drane again we are chilling :D
kazvixx
Hi tri
auskgd
Hope everything goes well, enjoy the hanging out time
auskgd
I feel u dude
orots
hope that goes well for u
imdrane
hey friends this is tri and im hanging out with drane rn
im currently almost two days into writing something that should clear everything up and explain why i keep getting dragged into drama. the stuff i keep getting dragged into is all originating from 1 person who has been on a kinda obsessive hate campaign against me for a few months now and its been very stressful for me. my statement will explain in a lot more detail
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orots
i can hang out with someone who thinks they have an "epic rated level" but dont shove that down my throat
incidius
I'm guessing the mystery gc must not be on discord since the discord max gc members is 10
gormuck
LOL
magboom.
for eg. I think its completely fine for a plat to be static, sometimes it is even better because of the environment/worldbuilding
auskgd
Which i doubt
Unless shes adding me to say "hey you should die"
magboom.
this is especially true for deco stuff
magboom.
idk judging plats on metrics that are not relevant in the same merit as if they would in classic
auskgd
If she is wanting to reconcile things that'd make me so happy
gecko4
thats great hopefully she wants to talk things out properly
auskgd
Oh wow I got a friend request from Clique
devilmine
oh true i forgor
gecko4
how do you even do that
magboom.

instead of plat larping (judging it as if you would judge a classic level)
I mean honestly I respect that you donโt send plats if you donโt care about them
magboom.
COG
kirichux3
but aside from that yea
kirichux3
u sent ultrasonic faith right
arcanin
rookie numbers
1kreno
only platformer that doesnt ruin the point of the game
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relicsong
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relicsong
keep it up soldier
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spycold
sac made an insane entry btw i loved it so much
gecko4
Classified is very good
zryder_
Literally
zryder_
IโM SAYING
dreameatergd
First one I've seen for Lunar Jam 4
Maslo yeah
magboom.
there is a level thats like half classic and its really good
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spycold
its okay theres some interesting stuff for lunar jam 4 that has released but thats about it
devilmine
i feel so uninterested in them unfortunately
auskgd
LOL that is completely fine
devilmine
Dude i genuinely feel so bad that i havent send a platformer in like 2 months imma be real ๐ญ
auskgd
The disrespect............ # love to metroidvanias
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auskgd
Now that is ABSURD
howard_subwoofer
My last note on this is how is someone with the cutie patootie name of swtcyn so obtuse to all this
spycold
hey
orots
yay
imdrane
yes please
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gecko4
i know at least 3 queer people who will reply to this message insisting they're not queer
connot
uuhhhhh
mbed
sorry straighties
we are all involved with the LGBTQ
halapeenyo
He did in fact get more involved with the LGBTQ part
โOkay. So plenty of things were discussed, religion, identity, (LGBTQ) furries, etc, but I got more involved with the LGBTQ part so hear me out. *And to clarify, the gc had people from all groups*โ
relicsong
"i don't know man, i just got here"
dreameatergd
Should've followed his own advice
halapeenyo
Hit em with the โkeep an open mindโ
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sakura.eve
swfcyn
orots
YEAH
orots
but still very much gonna change it someday idk
sakura.eve
bro the mask didnโt slip he just took it off willingly and was confused that everyone thought he was uglu
orots
i didnt im just gonna think abt the in game name more
sparksomega
Oh the mask slipped REAL bad ๐ญ
sparksomega
IM CRYIGNSJSJFOSOAKFWKEJ
gecko4
oh yea orots did u scrap the aria name change or did that just never happen yet
orots
ur icon can only go in one direction its basic game design
halapeenyo
Wild
I think Ryder pointed it put
gecko4
this message is gem
halapeenyo
Idk who said it put choosing someone with a furry pfp was a crazy move
spycold
im fine with platformers unless you shove it down my throat
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magboom.
the advisor update will bring a "Not Advised" button? ๐
gecko4
there are only 2 ratings. rated and unrated
sakura.eve
they start asking me to respect platformers and that makes me stop respecting them
halapeenyo
There are only two ratings, feature and star rate
connot
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prismgd
Basic biology btw I hate when the woke advisors try and tell me shit about โepicโ and โlegendaryโ those are not real ratings!!!
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prismgd
Donny T and Elon called him up and told him he needs to fight the woke mind virus in mod chat
sakura.eve
there are only TWO ratings, rate and feature
itโs MOD not โ*advisor*โ (way more gay)
sakura.eve
i hate how WOKE modchat has become
sakura.eve
like bro wouldโve never been found out if he didnโt just, show us himself
devilmine
built up rage over the years of the woke left ruining modchat
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sakura.eve
yeah ๐ญ
gecko4
not a business meeting
prismgd
Literally no interest to try and understand other perspectives, only believing in what he was taught, very conservative mind if you will
gecko4
made ppl realise it's literally just some sort of a friend group in here
gecko4
genuinely benefitted us more than anything
gecko4
yea i suppose nick did say more discussions are happening in maintenance chat so will have to wait and see what conclusions are drawn
devilmine
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im crying
the leaks were so insignificant i forgor about them already
devilmine
lowkey forgor
zryder_
The doc did also list the members by name
sakura.eve
idk if itโs needed to comment more on ausk and tri, and idk how maintenance would comment on yrax when we canโt even agree on it
zryder_
True
gecko4
so not only was maintenance public but also the members on it minus ryder
well the modchat leaks had # unknown-channel
devilmine
i only knew of memory
tbf it was already extremely obscure
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yeah
zryder_
But that doesnโt reference Maintenance at all
I guess FAQ now
That was like the one thing that explained that Elders werenโt the higher ups ๐ญ
devilmine
its private
zryder_
But wdym the document doesnโt exist anymore?
Yeah I remember it had that
devilmine
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even just stating who is maintanance
devilmine
well it was more specifically the modchat explanation and shit that had a mention of it that i guaranteed remember
zryder_
It was removed? ๐ญ
devilmine
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I found a copy of it on the waybackmachine making sure that it is in some way public info before saying anything about the existence
doesnt exist anymore/is private
The document that showed the existence of maintenance just like
gecko4
that used to be the most common viewpoint yes, but especially since some elder mods have spoken out against the decisions the team has made, it has shifted specifically to maintenance
devilmine
I mean lowkey
zryder_
So prolly mixed
Iโve seen a couple reference maintenance by term
destriv
I've seen tweets saying all Elders are to blame
destriv
Some uninformed think that Elders decide everything
gecko4
i've never even seen the community acknowledge "modchat higher ups" beyond viprin as a concept until this stuff all started happening so it's definitely caused a shift in many people's perspective
some of which i'd have considered potential candidates
notably many people who wanted to go for mod have decided they no longer want any part of the team given what has occurred as of recent
ngl i know public statements arent the best thing to do in many cases but i'm seeing a resounding loss of trust from the community in specifically the "higher-ups of modchat" as they are naming it, due to no public statements or action being taken against the community backlash (people asking for yrax repromo, wanting more done in cases of tri & ausk (the latter being more or less resolved now i'd say thanks to the post ausk made))
i don't know how open anyone from maintenance would be to the idea of commenting publicly on any of it nor do i know exactly what the community would want to hear from it but i thought i'd just bring it up here because it's a very widespread opinion i am seeing
devilmine
bro
destriv
Definitely wanted to keep mod above all else after seeing this post
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gecko4
constantly tried to play the poor wording card when i've never seen someone articulate themselves clearer
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zryder_
Just from the discussion
Being real ik bro wasnโt gonna change his mind or make an effort to
sakura.eve
yeah
devilmine
very obvious from the entire convo before already
sakura.eve
it was always about keeping mod
lowkey the way heโs acting shows me he doesnโt actually care about learning about lgbt
sakura.eve
rain on his parade
sakura.eve
Gone.
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agsilver.
frustrating to see
he is acting so fake and its so
this is the only reason i dont sit right with a resign and think it needs to be a demote
arcanin
hopefully Rob demotes him soon ๐ญ (edited)
polarbeahr
It has a ring
Is 1.0 sludge a concept?
g.ben
1.0 sludge โค๏ธโ๐ฉน
zhenmuron
1.0 sludge with no sync
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omg his final send is so ass
prismgd
:/
This dude is already trying to save face
zhenmuron
ye
prismgd
See this is why I think itโs important to
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zhenmuron
going on a press tour
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prismgd
and unnecessarily involve ppl who dont wanna be involved
was worried wed just end up dropping shit
zhenmuron
ya i appreciate it, this kind of message is why i wanted ppl to chill
mbed
its evident to everyone involved the chasm that is between how swtcyn and ausk handled marginally similar situations
prismgd
Thank you, you the goat sorry you had to go through that
mbed
idk i think it can be misconstrued with the ausk situation without some slight context
gecko4
yea i dont think we need to post any screenshots i just think it should be โdemoted for breaking guidelines such as having hateful views towards the LGBTQ+ communityโ
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dreameatergd
Someone check sent tab
prismgd

mbed
LMAO
connot
he's probably going back and sending all 100 of his unrated medium length levels rn
prismgd
mbed
well you dont gotta do that to say that swtcyn was in this server spouting sum bullshit
zhenmuron
lol
but also i dont wanna just dump his dms in public without asking him
ya i agree
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zhenmuron
this is true ya
mbed
thats the current narrative so its whatll happen
mbed
ye but whats there to process without a statement being made? that we are forcing dubstep to step down for some asinine reason?
zhenmuron
im not saying we do that
gecko4
if you make people hunt for the reason theyโll only be more upset finding out why
agsilver.
ngl it will always be a "but why" or "and why" unless its just straight up initially stated idk (edited)
gecko4
thats why i feel itโs better to demote + reason so ppl can process it without us having to explain it ourselves cus then itโll just be โokay and why isnโt the demotion message telling us this instead of youโ
zhenmuron
and see what happens
i just want ppl to chill and process stuff before we pull out the twitter statement
ye
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zhenmuron
im saying let ppl who actually were involved say shit
im not saying we pretend we dont know
incidius
He said this in his discord server which hinted at it even more than the tweet
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devilmine
Yeah idk
mbed
publicly denouncing homophobia is not controversial
arcanin
i personally refuse to go and pretend i dont know the reason why he was demoted
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zhenmuron
if relevant people want to say something they can imo but i urge caution
mbed
regardless of what happens i stand by the fact that we as individuals should have the freedom to speak up about it regardless of whether or not it says the reasoning on the Gd Server message or whatever
zhenmuron
i dont want you guys going out and making statements the second anything happens tho
we will just see what happens with demote
devilmine
Friend of swtcyn who was loosely involved in this situation
arcanin
its put even worse than i cant discuss
arcanin
i feel like its even worse knowing the context because he literally said "due to reasons that I don't feel necessary to speak upon"
mbed
its a forced gtfo
agsilver.
then why not prove that we dont just do this?
zryder_
Who? ๐ญ
mbed
its so far from a forced resignation its crazy
devilmine
yeah
zhenmuron
whatever we will just see
devilmine
Likely too
zhenmuron
this too
zhenmuron
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zhenmuron
Ppl saying its forced resignation bc they thing that is all we do after yrax
incidius
Swtcyn said โfor reasons I canโt discussโ so I think thatโs why ppl are suspicious
auskgd
already
devilmine
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devilmine
And its extremely easy to put 1 and 1 together
auskgd
Thank you again ๐ there we go correct reply
auskgd
sorry
wrong reply
devilmine
And put 1 and 1 together
auskgd
oh
zhenmuron
bro
devilmine
Because again Tfor1 was also involved
I got 3 dms already about people saying its a forced resignation
zhenmuron
ye
devilmine
No
auskgd
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mbed
if someone harrassed me id be pissed if my workplace prevented me from speaking up about it
zhenmuron
only we know
zhenmuron
is it? cuz like
mbed
people can make the connection without it being officially pointed out
incidius
Not really. Thereโs been quite a few fake resigns that never got out
arcanin
if we say that he was demoted while his twitter posts make it look like he resigned on his own, people WILL ask
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agsilver.
idk id rather the reason get out on OUR terms and not on some random community member who thinks we are cover ups
arcanin
its only a matter of time before the reason gets out anyway
zhenmuron
and i dont want yall to go out and make a bunch of statements if that is the case
we are trying to get away from doing anything like that
even if it is demotion we arent gonna post reason tho
agsilver.
kakegurui masho
sakura.eve
please let it be demotion
or resignation
2-3 business days for demotion
devilmine

Gotta wait 4 days for the demotion first
prismgd
Hopefully Rob will let us demote officially
zhenmuron
we are just gonna see what happens
zryder_
Get em outta here
prismgd
I think even if Rob doesnโt want to โdemoteโ we should publicly come out with that stuff ngl
agsilver.
lia has been planning this for a week btw... dw yall, mod team busy af these days ๐ช
zryder_
I knew Lia was a car
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lowkey tho, after reading everything swf said i hope itโs extra clear how in the clear you are
devilmine
dw
Lia has something for tmmrw
zryder_
Not until Fortnite has better tourney stuff
auskgd
I was gonna say me but i forgot i already had my turn ๐ญ
zhenmuron
do me a solid
lock in
ive had a nonstop headache last 4 days
zhenmuron
nah can you guys chill for like a day
zryder_
Prolly not
electro325
I sent platformer levels
agsilver.
thoughts
relicsong
i only played S1
agsilver.
@Ryder lets run back the fortnite gds tournament
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relicsong
is that even a thing anymore
yo lets drop in flush factory
zryder_
Tryna be a Fortnite Advisor
sakura.eve
maintenance member btw
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zryder_
Yeah I been considering playing Fortnite again
sakura.eve
what has this week been tho, anyone else wanna come out with demotion level controversy theyโve been keeping from us, go on we wonโt bite
zryder_
So crazy
gecko4
even when he still went by dubstepfanatic i constantly mistook him for a girl which he apparently got a lot lol
devilmine
genuinely one of the decisions of all time
magboom.
insane sentence ๐ญ
orots
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who i thought was gay from name alone is crazy
gecko4
it sounds like it was a discussion between lgbtq and non-lgbtq ppl
zryder_
0 thought put into it ๐ญ
agsilver.
im baffled that like, the people in this gc didnt have the same sentiment as us?
zryder_
โSwtcynโ who I thought was gay from name alone turns out to be maga beat homophobic and picks the furry PFP Mod to tell it to after Ausk thing happens (edited)
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orots
huh
arcanin
noly2K too
agsilver.
also he mentioned lgbtq+ members and furries were in this gc
gecko4
he namedropped tfor1 so maybe they were there
devilmine
nw
Ye he did
orots
or not
didnt he mention this gc is completely separate from gd circles
gecko4
he mentioned some ppl there were lgbtq+ so maybe it was a 2 sided convo
devilmine
I was because i absolutely DESPISE those wokies...
arcanin
apparently that gc is composed of people outside of the community according to him
zryder_
The most insane turn of events (edited)
gecko4
echo chamber gc
devilmine
dude fr
zhenmuron
hope none of you are in said gc
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gecko4
hey best friend of a long time! haha trans people? um... well the weather is good today!
mbed
so i wasnt sure
different pfp in the screenshot
zhenmuron
ye
main point im trying to say is this dude gone and we dont gotta worry abt him regardless
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genuinely so insane
devilmine
ultimately it would be rob just not wanting to cause drama "himself"
mbed
i just actually went to read through more of the original conversation than just the first screenshot posted (cuz that was all i needed to see with context at first) but im just dumbfounded LMFAO i cannot believe he continued to engage in conversation here like that
devilmine
u said its up to rob anyways
Ye nah ur fine pauze
zhenmuron
def not trying to sweep it under the rug btw i should make that clear
prismgd
I donโt think the reputation will be good and people will always hate but I think itโs more important that we donโt want to be in a team that would sweep something crazy like this under the rug
sakura.eve
for real, i was so confused reading it too
gecko4
im not the most fond of fake resigns but if people were to read her demotion reasoning then her eventual response probably wouldnt have gone as well since ppl are really bad with anchoring bias in this community
zryder_
I remember in the past Maintenance was supposed to care less about what Mods posted
auskgd
Mhm
zryder_
Honestly thatโs fair
arcanin
the audacity he had to say it "wasn't him talking" too
devilmine
i refuse to lowkey let this damage the teams reputation even more
actively encourages us to do it
prismgd
Facts
devilmine
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realistically he doesn't mind so
Even if rob is against ill post about it and shift blame on rob then
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agsilver.
i dont want to deal in a week ro twos time that we are maga defenders or something idk
devilmine
I mean I already have decided my position on this
prismgd
He was running maga gpt
agsilver.
i understand that there will be twitter shit, but there will be twitter shit regardless, lets atleast make it look good that we kicked him out ๐ญ
prismgd
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devilmine
grrrrr minorities
zhenmuron
he couldve just said nothing at all
why did he just choose to say that shit ๐ญ
zhenmuron
dude when we first read this shit i was so dumbfounded
incidius
I mean tbf most fake resigns have gone well. Its literally only been the yrax one that went bad and that was because yrax posted about it on twitter.
Swtcyn clearly doesnโt want to explain what happened
devilmine
Its extremely likely it does
howard_subwoofer
Which is very nonzero
This message has been redacted to protect someone's identity
howard_subwoofer
A resignation would go to shit if any of this got out
zhenmuron
im not saying we will do one or the other
devilmine
When it gets out we are utterly fucked
gecko4
it will get out whether we announce it or not yea
zhenmuron
no ik
prismgd
I donโt gaf whatโs โeasyโ for that dude he can take the the consequences of those actions and beliefs
devilmine
Arguably more the moment it gets out
zhenmuron
that said i do agree with demotion reasoning
but
so much less twitter shit to deal with if we just humor him and say good riddance
prismgd
Itโs easy to denounce homophobia
devilmine
Resignation breaks our trust even more
zhenmuron
ultimately i agree with the demotion side personally but i also think resignation would be so much easier
gecko4
yea for sure
devilmine
I think no matter what I'll say something regardless of either demotion or resign like holy I find this insane ๐ญ
prismgd
we need more mods from Gaffney
prismgd
Demote him please please please
zhenmuron
When you have the nerve to peach ๐ ๐Gaffney
prismgd
Yeah bro like helllll noooo your ass did not resign 

gecko4
im crying
sakura.eve
we had all this conversation about ausk and transphobia and swtcyn was like โdonโt worry guys, iโll show you what real transphobia looks likeโ
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gecko4
even in the twitter thread he doesnt say a word about it
and he never did
gecko4
given before he โresignedโ the chat was urging him to take any accountability at all
gecko4
โreasons that i donโt feel necessary to speak up onโ is a crazy line to me after everything
arcanin
i find it extremely uncomfortable that people are supporting swtcyn (including people i know) because he seems to somehow have omitted why this happened in the first place and not being able to say anything
orots
if anything this and the swtcyn demotion should hopefully shed more light on this that its not an instance of transphobia (edited)
gecko4
iโd like to add that he posted this almost immediately after leaving modchat https://x.com/swtcyn1/status/2087880562711151077
As much as I would've liked to have waited for August 30th to roll around \(that being my 3rd year as a Mod\) it was about time I resigned from the team \(due to reasons that I don't feel necessary to speak upon\)\. It's disappointing, but it's necessary\. Let's just say I've \(1/3\)
gecko4
it seems very well received
arcanin
its getting traction
Hello everyone\. I created this account to publicly address and respond to Cliqueโs thread, to contextualize everything, clear things up and apologize for the harm I caused\.
https://t.co/mvGNqk3tHp
relicsong
as long as there's 1 person who can refer back to your post then it could be ok
idk how it's doing right now
relicsong
ur post just needs to reach a wider audience
arcanin
oh yea absolutely
gecko4
resign i mean
gecko4
he hardly did honestly
auskgd
I can see what you mean yea. I guess my document and Clique removing the video afterwards should be of enough clearence but for someone that doesn't know anything about the context it might be hard to differentiate things, especially since what Cyn said isn't public.
arcanin
he didnt even want to resign in the first place
prismgd
I also donโt really like the implication that Rob would want to hide something like this :/ but hopefully Rob will be like โyeah if you want to demote go aheadโ
orots
^
gecko4
i dont think his resignation message should be considered because it took 5 different mods over the course of 30 minutes to convince him
prismgd
But please, push for a demote
gecko4
but yeah i donโt think an outcome that isnt โdemoted for breaking guidelines such as xโ
prismgd
Ah I see, in my eyes if Rob is going to remove his mod status no matter what since he did โresignโ it should be up to maintenance how to disclose the events but I understand if thereโs nothing you can do
sakura.eve
just jesus christ
gecko4
i feel as though heโd be unlikely to disagree with the sentiment here, nick is probably just making sure we donโt think itโs a guaranteed thing
sakura.eve
what the actual fuck did i just read
devilmine
This is a Mod team matter purely
I mean admittedly yeah
arcanin
i lowkey dont even think it should be up to rob to decide ๐ญ
gecko4
would hope that in that case, if questioned about โwhy did swtcyn resign/get demotedโ we could explain
it seems if rob doesnt want to do it then it would be everyone on the team in disagreement with the decision
prismgd
โOh the mod team let this homophobic dude resignโ
And it looks worse if these messages ever leak btw
I think itโs a very easy thing to do and shouldnโt be controversial
But also I really donโt want to be in a team that doesnโt want to publicly denounce these ridiculous talking points
Not that the reputation really matters tho
Thank you Iโm glad people here agree, if stuff like this keeps being dealt with under the rug then the reputation of the team will get worse
devilmine
It is genuinely baffling to me that someone is in a community like this while believing that
relicsong
good shit bro
and agree too
i respect it a lot
prism that was a very good message
devilmine
It absolutely is
prismgd
Thank you I just spoke my mind seeing that stuff from someone here just is extremely irritating
devilmine
And say it was completely up to Rob
so we can at least shift the blame off the Mod team then
In that case
relicsong
still
devilmine
@AutoNick would it be fine if I publicly distanced from it afterwards outside of rob in the case rob decides against it
relicsong
but i think demotion is better than resignation
i can defo see some double standard argument arise tbh with ausk staying and swtcyn not just cus yknow its twitter
autonick
Already mentioned it earlier, this is up to Rob ultimately. I will push for it to be a demotion and bring up the points y'all brought up, but it's his call ultimately
gecko4
i havent seen the reception of auskโs thing yet but from what i read people here seemed to like the final rendition
i firmly agree that it should be a public demotion with a cited reason, especially as people may see us demoting some โrandomโ mod โinstead of auskโ or something like that
devilmine
You put it in an incredibly good way
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prismgd
@AutoNick I think you should bring this up with maintenance, I would feel a bit uncomfortable if he was just allowed to โresignโ
prismgd
I know he been left and all but this is just too fucking insane to not comment on
The absolute audacity to just randomly say this just blows my mind like what an idiot, I canโt believe someone on this team would be spouting these MAGA talking points in the big 2026.
How can he talk about โI donโt shove beliefs down their throatโ when he is literally doing that in this picture. How can he be so confident in these views when he literally doesnโt know the difference between sex and gender and thinks gender has anything to do with biology and has the nerve to peach about these blatant untrue statements as facts.
How does he have the courage to be so disrespectful to someone else and pretend that he is a good person while saying lies and shitting on a whole part of the community.
In my opinion we should not let him โresignโ he should be publicly demoted to show that the Mod Team does not stand with homophobia and bigoted talking points
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landongmd
closest i can get
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howard_subwoofer
This isnt from here i just like it
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orots
LMFAO
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landongmd
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some good ones in there
orots
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i dont think i looked at the stickers
landongmd
its such a good emote
gecko4
i like how itโs not an apology and i hire robtop because i claim he has bad standards
landongmd
yes lole
orots
THATS FROM THIS SERVER ???
orots
proud of you for coming out with this
devilmine
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gecko4
My apology:
Hello modchat. I havenโt actually enjoyed being a Moderator at all. I donโt want to resign though, so Iโve had a talk with maintenance and we collectively decided that I will now be the only Moderator left. RobTop will hand the source code over to me and I will remake the game from the ground up. RobTop will be hired onto the team as an Advisor, as it has been determined through statistics that his rating standards donโt line up with the community. Thank you for understanding.
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orots

arcanin
ill take a part in it
orots
if its not modded im not downloading it
devilmine
Ill make a spreadsheet!
relicsong
i'll make the google docs anyone want one?
zhenmuron
Well ig now would be a good time for you to start talking about it. Whenever youโre ready post your statement
relicsong
yeye
gecko4
dont forget ts2 legacy too
relicsong
makes sense
relicsong
and then you when bee crusher gets rated from our "distract people from drama" levels list
orots
yeah the schedule is pretty tight
gecko4
oh right the part where the mod team is covering up the dramas
orots
saturday is already booked for dgc results drama
gecko4
whatโs the situation happening on saturday gonna be about
kazvixx
When lia gets demoted?
zhenmuron
Maintenance allows me to see the future
mbed
you had a prophetic vision
zhenmuron
I knew it was gonna happen this time at least
Well
devilmine
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devilmine
its lowk crazy how something always happens while ur not there
zhenmuron
Good morning I hear nothing has happened as usual while I was asleep
auskgd
discussing discussions
auskgd
i was gonna say LOL
auskgd
Yeye cos no mutuals
kirichux3
silver
devilmine
probably
g.ben
LOL
agsilver.
should we lowkskirk move to general?
devilmine
thats actually impressive
liathecat
IOEWLJS FJOIEW
devilmine
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liathecat
LOL
kirichux3
how the fuck your comment got more dislikes than the level itself
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liathecat
what i even do bruh
devilmine
LOL
devilmine
what skin are u using
liathecat
im gonna go play fortnite and eat ice cream
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orots
Lia
liathecat
676767
devilmine
immediately
please
@AutoNick demote
1kreno
okay
liathecat
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gecko4
dude not the feature checkmark ur cooked
liathecat
ooooohhhhhh
devilmine
ur getting the feature checkmark
gecko4
you furry
liathecat
i think ive been going pretty strong so its not that hard
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devilmine
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rather than taking accountability for what he said
mostly concerned about staying mod
devilmine
it really doesnt help that when it was discussed here that he was just like
gecko4
ppl really mask this kind of thing well damn
crazy stuff
gecko4
this seems so out of character from someone who seemed to have like the friendliest vibe ever
devilmine
liathecat
advisor bullshit
agsilver.
mb
i should forward this to discord and not the gd advisor discussion channel
lowkey a good change that would be good for discord is if you could pin messages to the top of a channel
howard_subwoofer
Featherless bi ped
autonick
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devilmine
only thing hes known for
mbed
@Subwoofer bi your self
liathecat
@gecko
mbed
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devilmine
5 more ppl asking here prob minimum
mbed
i mean shit i dont either whats the problem
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devilmine
dude theres gonna be like
gecko4
oh ๐ญ (edited)
devilmine
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and said that he dont respect ppl like that basically
kirichux3
dont worry nothing happened
devilmine
he was just blatantly lgbtphobic
mbed
nothing happened
liathecat
oh boy
gecko4
whats this with swtcyn whatโd i miss
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devilmine
(obv jk)
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devilmine
shadow realming
gecko4
yea ill send in a bit
polarbeahr
Can't wait to see this up and coming player EDMEnjoyer making a mod application form in 3 years ๐ช
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howard_subwoofer
We can help by unrating his stuff i think
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connot
beyond corny
polarbeahr
Damn
liathecat
i think bro dipped
he also reset his entire gd account stats
polarbeahr
For now
Seemingly disappeared from Discord
devilmine
just no mutuals
actually nvm he left his own server too so i dont have one either
ill check if i can react cuz i shared one server with them still
devilmine
no mutuals means u cant send him anything if they have dms off (edited)
liathecat
i really didnt like it when i first saw it
liathecat
i wouldnt have sent it at the time of its release but it grew on me later
devilmine
next time ill put a math equation into it instead
connot
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it just doesnt work doing this btw
kirichux3
this is crazy to me
devilmine
You know i intentionally swapped the numbers while typing because i fucking knew this was gonna happen
devilmine
valid
devilmine
but not too sure about that
for some reason i have 7 or 6 in mind
2
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mbed
but i wont harp on it
devilmine
if not even more
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mbed
it feels extremely derivate of krmals works in a boring way, and this goes for every level by that same creator
devilmine
and got rated on the 5th iirc
devilmine
Oblivion failed 4 times i think
mbed
im kinda surprised its so well received
lowkey i dont really like Death that much (edited)
kirichux3
the bias towards like not sending experimental and different stuff in 2.1 was actually absurd at times yeah
mbed
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kirichux3
yeah crossroads would have needed to wait till 2.2 ๐ญ
mbed
compared to the other levels at the time everything quirky was getting exploded
that was sum bias
lol crossroads def wouldnt have passed the system at all if i werent a mod
even tho people didnt rly care i thought it was important
kirichux3
like im not too big on death but like that level is still cool af
mbed
i tried to get the system changed a bit to include personal weight like i pushed for that hard
kirichux3
death getting star rate was certainly questionable
devilmine
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considering some concerns that were brought up that ppl didnt even watch full levels if they were long
ngl
and lowkey the incentive for XP here
devilmine
ye that too
kirichux3
im glad i wasnt a creator back then lol
was cooked
yeah rob didnt rate demons in periods of like 2-3 weeks in 2.1
mbed
and also as a result of that many levels that actually did get rated got a way lower rating than deserved imo
devilmine
me when demon system was closer for like 2-4 weeks at once because rob didnt rate for like a week straight was bit chopped
mbed
but ye
devilmine
which pushed the standards higher
mbed
idk if i dont like a level what are the alternatives? going by some rigid arbitrary "objective" standard?
devilmine
i mean lowkey the biggest issue rather was rob not rating enough
kirichux3
i looove oblivion its so cool
mbed
and its weird cuz like
kirichux3
basically a no send button
yea
mbed
but bcus of how demon system worked it would have a way bigger impact
thats just how it works
like every level thats ever been on the servers has more no sends than sends
kirichux3
i c
mbed
negatively impact levels in ways normal sends wouldnt
kirichux3
shukketsu failing is kind of crazy to me cause thats like an epic for todays standards imo
mbed
and this goes for everyone
but as a result it would then like
i voted no sent if its not something id personally send
thats part of why the system was fundamentally chopped
kirichux3
chopped..
mbed
i think i no sent oblivion
kirichux3
and shukketsu but ig that was a nong which makes sense more but still
g.ben
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agsilver.
i made this meme like 3 hours ago cause i was just frustrated with all the drama happening
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devilmine
๐ญ
to bullshit go
OK SURE
kirichux3
didnt oblivion get denied aswell even tho its like an absolute solid feature ๐ญ
devilmine
this just goes from like
dude im crying
liathecat
LEAVE ME ALONE
devilmine
Fixed by FuryCannon
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OG Creators & ID: porygon z, intensa; 36002368
ID: 121550287
Version: 2.208
FPS: 240
Hitbox showcase: https://youtu.be/MtgNzllUeZE
best level in game lowk the spams are satisfying
polarbeahr
I miss demon system
mbed
light travel getting denied like 3 times before finally passing
liathecat
STOPPPPPPPPPPPPP
mbed
demon system was so chopped
liathecat
UIJLKHDSFHUWEDISHFE
mbed
kirichux3
me when mbed is in chat
polarbeahr
That's porygon2
kirichux3
mbed
agsilver.
DUDE
mbed
porygon z is crazy
liathecat
he probably already did
kirichux3
gecko would send narcton diablo X
liathecat
by porygon z and fucking isane
devilmine
crazy name
deadly silent ego
some of those levels are not real btw like what am i looking at
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W
devilmine
not being aware it was impossible
devilmine
because someone submitted it
kazvixx
Poor lg TV's
relicsong
cant believe silver hates these
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wait so how was it demon system i mconfused
devilmine
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for reference society is top 1000 on the ILL
like
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LGTV IS SENDING ME
LMFAO
devilmine
รฎts literally impossible
g.ben
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kirichux3
is this like unnerfed
devilmine
that gif needs to die
kazvixx
I remember my first demon suggestion was a stolen level
kirichux3
genuinely top 1 for its time or smth
this looks like
devilmine
99% sure
yes
kirichux3
a top 1
it looks like
are u sure this was demon system
orots
this gif is incredible
devilmine
nah but lowkey demon system time was so funny
devilmine

kirichux3
why would this ever fail!
g.ben
good luck with your break!! ๐
kazvixx
Have a good rest infra
kirichux3
dude I remember seeing this on twitter
g.ben
hi ๐
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orots
hope ur break lets u rest
agsilver.
cheers infra <3
orots
take as much time as u need king
devilmine
Take care, hope your break will go well ๐งก
polarbeahr
Bye infra
liathecat
take care infra
1nfra
anyways i return back to my break, thanks for allowing me the space to share my thoughts on the matter. see you guys in a month or two
i also implore people to take breaks too as this online shit gets deep sometimes and it can be a lot to take in. Y'all are awesome, and I hope yall keep staying that way. Love y'all ๐ฉต
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g.ben
Hey silver, can i ask you about your opinion on some topics?
polarbeahr
Fellas if you're here to talk about anything my DMs are open ๐
devilmine
Id be down
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agsilver.
Wait you should dm me about this
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liathecat
ok swtcyn
devilmine
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its crazy
80% of demon system shit
1kreno
is that a boykisser
devilmine
i have this stupid autism that i deadass remember like
auskgd
Nah he didn't, dw. He tends to close isolate himself and ponder about stuff when he knows he made a mistake.
kirichux3
ew furry
devilmine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vym4k9pcJ6I this one iirc
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*Level Name:* Back from the Grave
*ID:* 90881318
*FPS:* 720
*Music:* https://youtu.be/4vGPyznu-Ys
liathecat
:D
liathecat
i have gone back and counted all the ones ive seen and its about 5 nearly 10
agsilver.
BEN NO YOU GO
LET HIM BE
howard_subwoofer
Today is cursed
agsilver.
Ben is livijg in the future bro
g.ben
MY B
howard_subwoofer
TOMORROW
g.ben
Tragedy Muse!! โฌ๏ธ
kazvixx
What level
devilmine
oh? ๐
orots
like later
howard_subwoofer
Fishing level in like 3 weeks idk
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orots
any mod buddies wanna playtest btw
g.ben
yeah ๐ญ
kirichux3
whats yours
devilmine
LOL
autonick
and on Saturday we should all talk about how awesome the duality cc results were
devilmine
that someone actually requested an ILL level in the demon system before
kirichux3
btw just noticed that swtcyn straight up ghosted this ๐ญ but whatever
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autonick
tomorrow we should all talk about our favorite duality cc entries
devilmine
dude that reminds me
liathecat
i feel like sending the entire impossible levels list today who is with me
orots
its okay my level will save tomorrow ๐ฉท
devilmine
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connot
justl3o 2 just dropped
polarbeahr
Release a level so I can take the whole day to find the mythic send button
kirichux3
gm subwoofer
howard_subwoofer
No talking tomorrow
Can we go one day without some shit
1nfra
Final thoughts:
- swtcyn's demotion should be announced; matters brought to light eventually
- ausk taking accountability is good; happy to see that even though i was not particularly happy with his approaching topics with clique
- tricipital should sincerely take accountability, either here or on a public notice, honestly ASAP because he does not have a good look for himself at current and his controversial request model that is questionable at worst and potentially exploitative at worst resulting in a direct rule update should be addressed in some mannerism. A lack thereof is highly concerning IMO.
- yrax's demotion remains justified imo; wish the doc they responded had more emphasis on how the followed accounts included child-depicted characters as I don't think the average person understands what "cub" is and people would think it's just NSFW when it involves worse matters. In saying that, I echo other mods and nonmods concerns that the demotion was brutal and raises questions about future incidences revolving following suggestive accounts, especially when one follows so many that it's hard to keep track of who posts what. It does sour the demotion some more in my opinion when taking that lens to consideration.
kirichux3
yea lol
g.ben
.
kirichux3
I didnt mean any of what i said let me misgender my friend 6 times within the same message
polarbeahr
Same level of the "I was drunk" excuse
For me
polarbeahr
This really sealed the deal
orots
sorry i worded my homophobia poorly
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devilmine
it was so painful to read
polarbeahr
Regardless, maintenance let the situation play out to allow honest discussions in modchat. SwtCyn would've been unmodded once all maintenance members probably gave the green light since a demotion is not taken lightly
devilmine
dude
like
more about it demoting him
๐ฅ
not even CARING about what they said
but they rather were sooooo insistent on keeping the mod badge
"Okay, i fucked up, i mean it and take the responsibility by doing this"
but mostly because I really wanted him to genuinely proof
orots
the discussion wouldve ended quicker if he had intentions of leaving to begin with
devilmine
I was too
orots
yeah exactly
polarbeahr
Not indirectly admit he just wanna be mod, which is what he did
But moreso to save face and as a start to regain our trust
Well to be fair I for one was pushing him to resign on their own accord
orots
like ur gonna get caught and then quit yourself ๐ญ
relicsong
I guess
orots
that kinda just came with the natural assumption that you will be given the option to resign yourself it seemed
relicsong
Especially if Nick said he would've prolly gotten demoted one way or another
I agree w that
connot
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he shouldn't get away with that
relicsong
So idk
Though in this case I suppose he DID resign himself before anything else happened
orots
exactly
relicsong
Can't constantly paint demotions as resignations otherwise the public will catch on
connot
idk i think if u hold an opinion like that ur inherently low iq lmao
polarbeahr
As for the rambling, idk. I also ramble and what I say isn't always cohesive
connot
he was not understanding yall either but he was prob doing that on purpose
incidius
I will say though that yeah yrax being put as a resignation didn't work out well because she basically just used that to twist what happened in order to get the community on her side
polarbeahr
I don't think it's a matter of low IQ. SwtCyn just went under pressure and handled terribly. What they said was hasty and clearly they didn't take time to consider their arguments.
devilmine
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it was pretty hard to read
i mean lowkey
connot
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and it was just super homophobic
idk i felt like it was so hard to read his constant rambling
arcanin
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theres just no wording issues
devilmine
wdym exactly
connot
his poorly worded stuff was just his grammar
bro is it mean to say this is prob a result of low iq from swtcyn ๐ญ ๐ญ ๐
polarbeahr
I agree
devilmine
idk i feel like i can communicate stuff publicly decently well
orots
i added one in your name
devilmine
too
devilmine
Id really dont mind doing so
kirichux3
thats okay
kazvixx
Im not rich only regular thumb up
polarbeahr
That's because autonick is super ๐
kirichux3
super thumbs up
autonick
Iโll push for demotion but canโt promise
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orots
literally ๐ญ
connot
i'd be happy for devil to be the guy to explain it if he wants to
orots
theres just a big chance resignation will be the thing that would spark more drama
kazvixx
Rare case where resignation rather puts more drama on us than reduces it
polarbeahr
Good point
agsilver.
This is the one case where i think it should be spoken about
orots
Yeah
connot
cus then ppl would say we're hiding it or whatever too when it eventually gets out
i agree
g.ben
same
kazvixx
Best thing IMO
incidius
if it means less drama, I'm happy for it to be just put as a resignation
kazvixx
Id go with demotion for breaking guidelines
devilmine
ngl
(where it would fall if it ends up as a resignation)
at least shifts the blame of us
i would genuinely consider asking if i can share some specifics publicly and just say "rob didnt want to share publicly but a large amount of mods felt like this should be brought to attention"
lowkey even if its a resignation in the end
connot
ye i see
orots
yea for sure, before ausks explanation the only context that the community was given was that he is straight up transphobic, and with the response + the demotion it would maybe help clear that misconception better (edited)
kirichux3
that will happen
like 100% can guarantee
connot
i think ausks situation has more nuance and there wasn't straight up bad intentions which is way different than swtcyn's case ๐ญ ๐ญ
kirichux3
if it ends up being a resignation, if at any point it comes up in which swtcyn did smth bad, everyone would shit on the team for "hiding a homophobe" or whatever
orots
when in reality it really is
because what ive seen was people assuming its not "enough" to get you kicked out
devilmine
it really needs to be a demotion
liathecat
that too
devilmine
it would help soooooo much
orots
also to add onto that, with ausks response hopefully being received well in the following day seeing no tolerance for lgbt phobia on the team would be heavily appreciated from the community's perspective i think
devilmine
this literally
kirichux3
agree
devilmine
like wtf
connot
idk i get that maybe fully announcing a demotion would bring more eyes to it but the community being ignorantly positive about his resignation makes me a little uncomfortable lol
devilmine
same
agsilver.
We all are lowk
connot
im so shocked ngl ๐ญ ๐ญ
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arcanin
no he left every server except his own
connot
tf did i do
bro he blocked me i didn't even read until now ๐ ๐
liathecat
absolutely
connot
swtcyns demotion should undoubtedly be announced as a demotion lololol
orots
and the miscellaneous drama would be like over someone getting blocked but thats about it (edited)
the complaints about streams specifically would often appear on twitter
yeah
agsilver.
Its a couple times people have specifically brought up streams from tri, not twitter stuff, them being present in the streams and they talk about it from that. Just want to clarify my point isnt about twitter stuff being brought up
arcanin
i feel like its different issues tho: people outside of twitter are usually complaining as to how he handles requests/his way of giving feedback, whereas on twitter its more related to miscelleanous drama and what not
mbed
i just think its notable to point out
it doesnt mean the negative interactions on the platform didnt happen
orots
i would hear someone say he said some really bad things about their level -> the entire circle shares the same negative sentiment from that
mbed
cus on discord he would have really personal interactions with all the people that message him and in his streams
like ive said this when the arb stuff happened but if twitter didnt exist i think arbs reputation would have been extremely positive
orots
they would though at least for this
mbed
not my intention i just think a lot of the negativity is initially sourced from twitter. like if it didnt exist the people in other spaces would not care about the issues, even if they care about them there now
orots
but a noticeable portion is on there though
yea its even like separate from Twitter too is the weird part
polarbeahr
No but I imagine that's the majority of the bad stuff
arcanin
again
agsilver.
Its not just twitter though
polarbeahr
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Tri is great but i have no idea how he got in all of that drama because its pretty much the same in circles i share
devilmine
for me arguably even more outside than in twitter
agsilver.
im ngl, i like tri but all my friends only speak negatively in private spaces..
devilmine
Id have to agree its a general issue I have observed outside of twitter too
arcanin
at the same time i dont like that you guys are summarizing to "its twitter" because it feels completely dissmissive and portrays a lack of interest to a potential issue
arcanin
from the interactions ive had with people its far from twitter centric
1nfra
twitter's def been the vocal side but im in a couple private servers and tri has been shat on for likewise reasons similarly
polarbeahr
Twitter is Twitter
mbed
and yall know how that is
but it is twitter centric
mbed
yeah he is kind of a public enemy mod rn unfortunately ๐ญ
kazvixx
Hope nothing bad rlly
devilmine
no idea what is gonna happen there now
so like
Clique retweeted ur post too
mbed
i would say especially because of how clique seemed to misrepresent you in the post, that she had a much different understanding of the level of hostility in the interaction between you two (understandably so), i do think you wrote a good response
auskgd
Wow, I'm sorry to keep coming back to this topic, but Clique has just removed my video from her channel after my response.
arcanin
yea i agree with that
relicsong
this is why i said "at face value this situation is not demotion worthy"
kazvixx
But I don't personally understand why did that matter
1nfra
i do not care for that personally but i get why some people do
arcanin
im ngl this is why im more on the side of demotion here cuz he has been getting away with stuff for a long time
kazvixx
I saw a lot of ppl being concerned tri used ai to code his site
1nfra
At least to my understanding
That's reasonable enough, it's just strange to me that my guy could result in an entire change to a rule to address unsaid concerns regarding money being involved at all, and honestly it would have been nice to see tri provide his thoughts on the matter in modchat because im ngl while all other people tethered to some sort of controversy has shared their records tri has not taken any visible accountability here
devilmine
I would have to agree with spark here
g.ben
i always stream with a friend or two, makes it a lot less stressful and just overall more entertaining to watch imo
dreameatergd
I was on a call with multiple people and suddenly they started talking about the n-word while I was completely phased out... when I came back mentally I was like "Why the fuck are you guys talking about the n-word??? I'm streaming???"
relicsong
my take on tri's situation is that no sends were actually sold and the guidelines at the time were very unclear; this case at face value is not demotion worthy but he needs to lock the fuck in cus i've seen him constantly get into drama much like arb (edited)
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kazvixx
The bits thingy was the real concern and was setup for god knows why reason as it was obv ptw, but other stuff does not break the rules if we consider channel points legit cuz like sub perks felt kinda useless, the only important thing they do is ability to give a promocode from your level's weight to someone else iirc, which is literally the same as if you asked someone with enough channel points to send ur level in a queue skip
dreameatergd
I haven't streamed with someone in a long long time like... probably before I got mod
auskgd
Sorry you had to return to all of this, Infra. I'd also like to apologize to everyone in mod chat for the stress or uneasiness I may have caused to some of you because of my situation with Clique, which shouldn't have affected any of you in the first place. I love the safe space we have in here and I hope to continuously contribute to that safety.
just.starr_
^, or at least im trying to because i dont know too much people to stream reqs with.
orots
its still a pretty meaningful interaction tho
orots
yea those perks were just bonuses there was plenty more stuff
orots
like the two can be marginally different imo
kazvixx
Tri's site doesn't necessarily require money to increase the weight
orots
because then you arent concerned about potentially missing out on a lot of weight on the off chance that someone does donate the money
but in itself that system wouldnt be as harmful without the monetary gain obv
well it also becomes a thing of if you attend more streams and arent going to donate then youre just hunting for a chance that someone does
1nfra
Even if it's a blanket application for people watching the stream it still functions as a pay-to-win method at the end of the day
1nfra
I feel like there are better ways to promote an incentive for activity and viewership without having it locked behind a paywall. As far as I'm concerned the custom site tricipital made was already dedicated to curbing requests with a weight system that felt more fair and impartial to those who have been waiting a longer time. That is incentive in and of itself in my opinion, so a paywall kind of bastardizes this to a degree because the incentive becomes less about "who has attended more streams/previously tried to request but failed more times" and more so "who has attended a stream and can potentially pay money to have a better chance at getting their request prioritized". (edited)
dreameatergd
But thanks for the wishes โค๏ธ
agsilver.
Get better dream..
dreameatergd
Well it's no biggie, hopefully should get solved with time but in case it doesn't it might require minor surgery
orots
those would be Horrendous conditions to stream in (edited)
kazvixx
Get well soon m8
orots
i hope u get better soon ๐ซ
dreameatergd
I've been on a hiatus for the past couple months because the heat is killing me, pair that together with a small health issue I have and it's genuinely just going through pain
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kirichux3
I love streaming but yea doing it more than 1-2 hours is stressssful
orots
but its cool to do for like an hour or two at a time per week or month
dreameatergd
I like streaming but it goes on a day by day basis
orots
something as simple as taking a bathroom break or tabbing out feels stressful
g.ben
would never do it alone tho
kazvixx
It kinda depends on the community you make imo
g.ben
i like streaming so far
zryder_
Felt like I and my PC was a hostage
orots
Yeah
zryder_
Streaming in general ๐ญ
Not just level reqs
Streaming was fun for a bit then then I realized I actually donโt like it
orots
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kazvixx
I usually see "dis guy doesnt send anything" 

orots
most fun part of the streams honestly when u see the creators positive reaction โจ
theres only the monetary benefit part of it thats bad because promoting incentive for people to actually stay and listen to ur direct feedback is great
orots
yea for sure
kazvixx
Oh btw
1nfra
I like the idea of having creators actually participate in watching the stream so they can actively see their level get sent or not and receive direct feedback likewise; I like to give a lot of feedback and it kind of sucks when I realize I am kind of talking to wall. In saying that, I feel like people should simply have the freedom to request levels wherever there is an opportunity to do so, and should not be forced to partake in anything further if they do not have time or means to do so. On that front, making this incentive dedicated to people actively watching the stream feels like a further monetary grab, and it does not quell my feelings that this is an exploitation of what's unsaid in the previous iteration of rule 6
orots
i am also strongly in support of it being a straight up demotion but its up to the big R ...
kazvixx
Ye ik its not that anymore and im happy cuz I also used it
devilmine
like loo
he doesn't want to improve either
kirichux3
zryder_
Prolly want a forced resignation + a reason (edited)
devilmine
This is just not that case lmao
kazvixx
Even those who were using twitch channel points could be considered that (hopefully it got discussed out)
devilmine
with people where it makes sense to protect them
orots
and this was the biggest complaint behind this system as well, people would have to be in a lot of streams to get extra weight
dreameatergd
Left one alright yup
zryder_
Even some people we couldnโt demoteโฆ
dreameatergd
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g.ben
oh he definitely left a mark... (edited)
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Idk why people are potentially upset about a forced resignation theyโve been asking us to do that with some people ๐ญ
orots
which is more ad revenue as well
so you are inherently even more incentivized to attend them
orots
everyone except the people not in the stream

